The Design Team discussed the following measure and measurement approach for the rate of employment of postsecondary students.
Measure: Percentage of accountably enrolled students received a postsecondary degree, certificate, or employer credential; were not enrolled in postsecondary the following year; and were employed or in the military at any time during the following reporting year.
Numerator: Students who earned at least 12 cumulative credits in a career preparation program or completed a program of less than 12 credits (or equivalent) by the end of the reporting year and were not found enrolled in any postsecondary institution in the U.S. during the following reporting year; earned a degree, certificate, or recognized employer certification in the reporting year or the following reporting year; and were found to be employed or in the military in the following reporting year.
Denominator: Students who earned at least 12 cumulative credits in a career preparation program or completed a program of less than 12 credits (or equivalent) by the end of the reporting year and were not found enrolled in any postsecondary institution in the U.S. during the following reporting year; and earned a degree, certificate, or recognized employer certification in the reporting year or the following reporting year.
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Rate of Employment for Postsecondary Students
Posted by arichards on March 19, 2012Indicators
jkrollMarch 29, 2012
This measure should include all "accountably enrolled" students who had exited community college, not just those who were not enrolled in any postsecondary institution the following year. Students who are both enrolled in additional education after community college (such as those pursuing a four-year degree at a university) and who are also employed should be counted in the percent employed. Excluding these students fails to capture the students who obtain employment while continuing to progress through a 2+2+2 program. Failure to include students who exited the community college program but continued their educations while employed would distort the actual rate of employment among students completing community college programs.
bwilsonApril 18, 2012
To count employment or military service at any time during the following reporting year is setting a very low bar for this measure. For example, a single day working on a summer job would count as would the temporary continuation of a part-time job that someone had while they were a student. There are at least two problems with setting the bar so low. First, it could draw into question the credibility of the measure as an accountability tool. Second, it could make it difficult to use the measure as a program improvement tool because the results would likely be too uniformly high. An alternative would be to measure employment or military service during a single post-exit quarter. The single best quarter would probably be the second quarter after exit since for the majority of graduates it would not count summer only employment or the mere continuation of a part-time job someone had while they were a student, and there is not a strong enough reason to delay finding out the results by picking a later quarter.
Gary GomesApril 26, 2012
From Massachusetts:
• Will outcomes under this indicator be limited to students who started in CTE programs in high school, in line with an emphasis on linkages from secondary to postsecondary transition?
• Will outcomes under this indicator be limited to students who started in CTE programs in high school, in line with an emphasis on linkages from secondary to postsecondary transition?
burkerp96June 29, 2012
There are many community college students that go through an occupational program and gain employment without ever getting a degree or certificate. They prove via transcripts the knowledge they have gained and don't ever apply for the degree. What do we do with these students?
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